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Acorn to Tree Family Podcast

Podcast with Coco O’Conner – Vintage Mama Podcast 1

Today we spoke  to Coco O’Connor from We discussed being an older mom, relating to other moms, helping our children deal with bullying and how it feels to have your own business and work remotely.


Coco started, a  community for mamas who had a child or children later in life. Coco started a podcast called:  Vintage Mama dedicated to women who had their first child at age 35 or older. You can reach Coco on the below social media accounts and her website



⁠Coco O’Conner Instagram⁠

⁠Coco O’Connor Website⁠

⁠Coco O’ Connor Twitter⁠ 


Vintage Mama | Creating a community for mamas who had a child or children later in life.



Full Episode Transcript:

Patrice Badami  0:02

Hi, it’s Patrice Badami, with Acorn to Tree Family Podcastodcas, and today I have Coco O’Connor, Our Vintage Mama, back to discuss more things about daily self care and daily rituals with her daughter and family time and things like that. How are you today  Coco.


Coco O’Conner 0:18

I’m good Patrice. Good. Good to see you again. Thanks for having me.


Patrice Badami  0:22

So fun talking to you. Her story is vintage We were just discussing it, we’ll talk more about it. But she has this amazing brush. Literally, my daughter runs and gets it when she used to run the other way when I tried to brush her hair. So we’ll talk about that later. So what are some important things you do to care for yourself each day to keep balanced, I have


Coco O’Conner 0:43

to get out and either run or walk. So I make it a point to get outside. Even if it’s cold, even if it’s rainy. You know it’s not so much. I mean I try to be mindful of that, you know what I did in my 20s, I can’t do now in my 40s. So I’m not going to go out if it’s really really too frigid. Or it’s something that could get me sick. You know, I’m kind of sensitive to that. But I just have to get out every morning. What I really love to do is just roll out of bed like I did yesterday, I rolled out of bed, my feet hit the floor, I woke up at six, which is a little earlier. And I just went for my run because I had a full day. I had to take my daughter to a field or I was a chaperone for the field trip. And it had rained all weekend. And I hadn’t done anything for a couple of days. So I was really anxious to get out. And the weather was absolutely beautiful. It was gorgeous. There was just no excuse to portray. So I just I just I mean, I just rolled out of bed when I was a little even like groggy getting on the road. But I did that. So I just have to do that. And I try to do at least, you know, like today, I have a full day again. And I had my calls started kind of early. But I didn’t. I didn’t get up as early today. And so I was pressed for time. But even if it’s 20 minutes or 30 minutes, you know, just getting it out is getting out as well. I


Patrice Badami 2:15

I have to agree with you on this. So last October, I started this boot camp thing. All right, prior to the boot camp, this last summer, I was doing cleaning and purging and organizing, and I didn’t exercise as much as they should. So I said that my daughter was like you’re always tired. So I don’t want to be tired. I want to be up and happy and do a lot of things and you know, have a lot of energy. So the sort of bootcamp. But it got kind of intense, it started getting harder, I noticed. And I said, you know, if when you drive to your facility, and you see that it’s closed, and you’re like, cool, that’s not really the best. I mean, and you drive around me like yes, that’s not the best, you know, thing. So I just started taking my dog for really long walks now. And I have this watch. And it has a little circle that sends a message saying, oh, you know, you have completed your circle. I think even in addition to that, though, weight lifting is really important as you get older, it’s good for moms and dads. It’s good for maintaining, you know, the bone density. So that’s something I want to bring back in. But yeah, I agree with you because she sent him to you to do that. You’re so much more fun. And I’m like, okay, Secrets of entrepreneurs. Yes. You know,


Coco O’Conner 3:29

I think it’s key. I think it’s key and you know, that’s the thing too. You said weightlifting, I don’t do weights, because I’m in a small, small little farmhouse here in Tennessee, so I just do push ups. I’m like, there you go. Yeah, you know, and just the old school thing. Yeah, so that’s what I do. That’s, that’s, that’s one of my one of my rituals, if you will my dailies.


Patrice Badami  3:56

So yeah, push ups and planks are isometric, which uses your own bodyweight as the weight and that’s perfect. You can even do the push ups against the wall. You can even do calisthenics where you’re lifting your own leg that’s also lifting weight. So yeah, it doesn’t mean you have to physically lift weights, you can actually just look up isometric weightlessness, you know the workout and you’ll be able to find lots of things for that. What are some things you eat or drink that make you ready for the day?


Coco O’Conner 4:26

Coffee definitely coffee but I tried to. I actually haven’t used creamer in gosh, probably five years now or so. It’s been amazing since a good five years ago. I really started getting into coconut creamers and getting away from dairy creamers. So I did so I had coffee, and I was using the layered superfood but I don’t know what happened. It was unsweetened and it was really good but I think they discontinued it. That’s the way it always is with Paper trace it’s like if I


Patrice Badami  5:01

don’t want to send you I’m gonna send you an article and it’s really funny happy to bring that up organically because here’s why. So I switched to this mushroom coffee but I got some liver enzymes back in there kind of high and he said to you, I haven’t creamer and I said I’m using an oatmeal creamer. So here’s the thing, just because it says oat milk or almond, you have to look at the actual ingredients, you have to be really careful because the sugar can increase your liver enzymes. The fat itself increases the sugar enzymes. So you have to look at what is exactly in that creamer. So I’m going to switch creamers because I usually have perfect blood work I never have a problem across the board. And that freaked me out. So just be careful even if you’re having the mushroom coffees, guys, please. You know the TZ organic teas. Watch the creamer. Because if it has things in it that are not that are going to increase your sugar and increase your liver enzymes not good. So whatever. Yeah, I’m gonna have an article of really great ones. I’ll send it to make no,


Coco O’Conner 6:01

I need them. I try not to, I mean coconut has a sweetness to it anyway. So I don’t I don’t go with the sugar one. I’ve never liked sweet coffees or any of that anyway. Yeah. But, yeah, so that’s one thing. You know, I love Patrice. I try to eat. I don’t know if it’s like, well, let’s say. So a couple years ago, I started working for this health guru coach, he had a and I was doing his mark, like, wasn’t marketing it was, I was building like backend systems for his leads that he was getting. So he could sell them his high ticket weight loss program. So I’m really good at Tech. And I implemented all these back end systems like Salesforce and landing pages and all this web nerdy stuff, right? So I did that for him. And he had a program where 88 days, you’ll get off all your blood pressure’s all your medicine, and you just do this, and you don’t run or you do do exercise at least an hour a day walk if you can’t walk, you just lift your arms up. I mean, he was dealing with a lot of people who were really on, you know, obese and things like that for a lot of minutes. Now, I’m, I wasn’t because I’ve, I’ve always been active and everything and always run. But it was interesting. Basically, it was paleo, censured, you know, not processed food, low carb and lots of water with some supplements. So I tell you what, I did that. And no sugar for like 88 days. So I did that. And I actually had bought it for my husband, because my husband’s older than I am. And he wanted to get into better shape. And we both started doing it. And the guy does a thing called shuffling where it’s kind of like, it’s not really running. It’s kind of low, you know. But I tell you what, I, I mean, I got into like a size four. Again, like and I mean, I’ve I’ve always ranged between, like, you know, two to six, depending on what decade it was in my 20s 30s. And you know, so I did this and it really like I did notice Wow, when I did have sugar after that anytime I go weird, like made me loopy. Yeah, it made me feel really weird. Now, the thing about this is that he quite didn’t have it, it figured out to the sustainability level, because it was pretty intense, right? But we all know that it’s a lifestyle change. But from that I just really found that eating a piece of protein, whether it’s fish, beef, whatever it is on a big salad. That makes me feel wonderful. So yeah,


Patrice Badami  8:51

I feel the same way. Yeah, when I have a piece of fish, I physically feel better. And my son does this with fish. It’s really great with lemon. And then he puts this pepper sauce, whatever it is, but that over brown rice with vegetables, and I’m actually full. Like, that’s it, I’m good. But when you eat something that’s like when you’re getting older and stuff, your body is really responding more to foods that are not right for you. I’m noticing you can’t get away with it. And it’s not just about how you look. It’s about how I feel right. And I’m noticing that I haven’t reacted like I don’t normally eat. I don’t need hamburgers, but if I do now I feel weird. So I’m over the Easter break. I had a vegetarian lasagna my sister made and you know what? I felt better. And so I think I want to start leaning towards more of a vegetarian pescatarian right. I think it’s just better for me, because the fish never bothers me. But other things do. So I get that. That makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense. Okay, so how do you balance work with being a mom?


Coco O’Conner 9:59

Oh, that’s it. That is a loaded question there because I think mom guilt is always present no matter what we do. Do you know what I really have done here? Well, first of all, I think watching and really wanting to, you know, launching vintage mamas and making it into a business and actual business is that’s one thing. It’s hard work. But it’s something that, you know, I’m able to work, I’m able to do it when I need to or do it when I don’t, you know, do it when I don’t need to write if I don’t like yesterday is a great example. Like, I have things of course I need to do. But they can wait, I’m not answering to anybody. I don’t have to be anywhere. Time. And I guess. Yeah, that’s beautiful. working remotely. I mean, you know, it is great. And I’ve been doing that, coupled with, like, as I said, the nerdy stuff I do in tech, but it’s associated with things like landing pages and marketing and Facebook ads and all this stuff. So I’ve been freelancing since Quinn was a baby. And that’s actually before I think before I actually got pregnant, I started working for the health coach, and doing things like that. And that’s just, you know, I did corporate work, and it was great. I had a really successful corporate career. And I just knew that that would be my life. And I was in LA and you know, people really didn’t like kids. If you had kids. And I didn’t want you know, there was a real, there was a real prejudice to It’s like that


Patrice Badami 11:41

movie baby boom, right? Remember? Yeah. I get that.


Coco O’Conner 11:46

Yeah. So you could feel that you could feel that energy. And that that’s, that creates stress. And it’s very competitive like when I was in entertainment. I mean, I helped build, which is like ticketing a Ticketmaster site. So I was on the ground floor. Pretty exciting projects. I mean, I’ve worked on some pretty awesome things for my heroes, like Paul McCartney, and Paul Simon, you know, I’ve worked with him and stuff. It’s a good school. But if you could, I always felt like people were vying for my job, even though I was really good. And, you know, they offered me more money to stay when I told them I was leaving, but I was like, No, you know, because once they do that, they only do it once you go back, so I was like, No, I’m just gonna do it. You know, I don’t want it. I was, I was 39 I was pushing for, you know, I’m like, I gotta do this before I go into menopause, if I’m going to have a kid at the time is ticking. You know, I’d already kind of a risk by putting by waiting, waiting. No, and not. Not really, you know, to be quite honest, not having the courage to, to do that. But I don’t know. I mean, I found it a really good balance. Like when she was a baby, like Quinn had her schedule, which was nice. And it enabled, like, I remember her sleeping, she would take her afternoon naps, and she, you know, we would go on the bed and she’d be there and I’d get on my laptop and work. And I would do what I can do. I noticed that what’s good is that it depends on the work life. I just have to have the right clients. Because sometimes I’ve had clients that have really, you know, they, they, they want to infringe upon my personal time, either. That’s the thing with freelancing is, you know, it’s, it’s not like I did that, you know what I mean?


Patrice Badami  13:35

Yeah, I was working as a freelancer last summer for somebody and she kept changing. Like, she’d be like, This is exactly what I want you to do. And I did it, then she’d be like, No, you know, but really, it’s that, like, she wanted me to go into her head and figure out what, so I had to change the project around five times. So it was wrong. Yeah. But working for yourself. Here’s what I have to say about that. It has positives and negatives, people looking at, oh, it’s so easy. You’re in your house, you’re in your pajamas, you can do what you want to like, the problem for me is there’s always something to do. So the one thing is, first of all, when she comes home, I have to turn all of the company off in all aspects. I just turned it off, but like tonight, for example, she has dance, I’m gonna probably sit there and type while all the other mothers are chatting, I’ll get a bunch of things done. I’m cool with that. I’m like, I’ve always been that kind of a person who’s always always to the side. But what I was gonna say is the pressure within is what I’m expressing. Then I always feel like I gotta keep going, keep going, keep going. Like when she goes to bed. I stayed up till midnight last night doing something that was great. It was good to do. But I have difficulty turning it off for myself, like my so whenever I have my free time and I start getting really I say I gotta take or I gotta stop. You have to have the ability to stop because that pressure will come later. Even if you do turn off your device. Yeah. Have them in your head. So there has to be a way of releasing. So then it really is not just that you don’t have the computer, but it’s mental space for your child. It’s hard. And I get that. Yeah. Because as women, we tend to try to push ourselves to the limit. So that’s something I’ve experienced, completely. So there’s times I say, You know what, at night, I’m gonna crochet not to touch the computer. Yeah,


Coco O’Conner 15:22

so that’s the thing. That’s the thing to Patrice and I just want to share, like I, I was being coached by, by a, by somebody, and he turned me on to this best self journal, what I have found is really good is just like, like you can do, I don’t know if you can see it, but you can do like your, your, your time here. So my day starts at like 7 am or 6am. And I put out each hour, and then I will put in what I’m doing for that hour, right? You know, even if it’s Quinn’s dance, or, Okay, I gotta leave now from pickup, you know, or I gotta do this or that. And so that’s really helped. Not only, it just helps me know what I’ve done. You know, it also tells me you got a little grateful here, you got today’s goals and the dark targets or whatever, the habit tracker and all that kind of stuff that really has, I just started that back in October. And that is something that I think for people, especially freelancers who, like you say, you can look and say like, oh my God, my laundry is out of control. You know, I’ve got my ironing board back here, I’m gonna iron a piece of linen that goes on, you know, right at the table. It’s like, Oh, I could do that. But yeah, I think that, having that organized it. And it’s much more than just like a to do list even though I started doing it to do lists, which I found was very productive. But it just helps, you know, helps. Self helps me delegate my time. Because time is like I always say on my podcast, it’s our most precious resource. It’s not, not like money. Money can be made when it can be lost, but it’s like time is something we never ever, ever get back. Yeah, how we spend it is so important.


Patrice Badami  17:01

Exactly. And the other thing is, it’s a “Catch 22”, Because it’s I want to have this house perfectly organized, but the process of getting it there. Yeah, I’m taking the time to just throw stuff out. My issue is sentimental stuff. It’s hard. Yeah. stuff my mom gave me or my dad. But then I see that both of my sister’s both are really experts at this. They’re able to just pitch it or donate it. Usually they donate it, which is what I’m going to do. But yeah, yeah, it’s like the time I’m gonna have to take to stop everything to do that. But then eventually my apartment will be amazing. Why isn’t I don’t know what, like once you get a house, it’s like having a huge bin like your house is the bin. Because when Yeah, I mean, you have a little tiny space, you have no choice but to get rid of stuff when you have a big house. You can squirrel stuff with ya know, and having bins, all the bins, the odd organized hoarding, I don’t know how. That’s pretty much. Listen, Coco I have three shirts. Okay, great. All right. But they’re, they’re all tiny. It’s just their stuff that they deliver. Anyways, enough of that. Moving on. So what are some really fun daily routines that you have with your daughter that you always make sure you do.


Coco O’Conner 18:18

I always make sure I do but are those let’s say? I mean it’s a good question. I’ll have to think of that. I mean, there’s always breakfast like I guess it’s like it’s practical stuff like I don’t know if we wish she’s older Yeah, she’s she’s so I pray we always write we’ve always had this prayer. Like when I’m in bed before we go to sleep. There’s always what is it we pray I advise it escaping me I’ve been doing it since she was like a little like, you know like “I Quinn dwell on the sacred place in the Most High God”,   Amen. Like that’s our little ritual.


Patrice Badami 19:08

Nice. So ties you together with her that’s,


Coco O’Conner 19:11

I’ve been doing that since she was way tiny. Like even a baby. So praying that that’s, that’s something we do. Daily and then I’m trying to think, you know, I just chill out. And if I sometimes depending on my dinner and what a warzone my kitchen turns into, like, whatever, it’s whatever I’ve made or my husband’s made and I have to clean up. I have to I always try to get my kitchen tidy and that’s something I need to work on betrays because sometimes it’s like, I really should not take those precious moments that I could be spending with her even if it’s just like she just got a new tent, a little tent, TV room. And so she’s like, come up with come snuggle with me. I mean, we snuggle like that’s what we want. That’s great. And I’ll watch I’ll watch VeggieTales or Flintstones or Woody Wood, or whatever it is, like whatever cartoons were, you know, I don’t mind watching cartoons because like I said Patrice, she won’t be eight


Patrice Badami 20:12

for forever. I know and think I can’t do it over. Yeah, yeah,


Coco O’Conner 20:16

I think of it as vintage Mama’s like, that’s my biggest. You know, good. My, my best trait is that like, really, like, I can be a little more lap X and chill, and not so you know, uptight about certain things that I actually have seen other younger moms, UFC, you know,


Patrice Badami  20:36

I hear that.


Coco O’Conner 20:39

You know, and I mean, I don’t know if it’s good or bad. We’ll see when she’s 20. Right. But like, I hope it is. I mean, because I just like I and I think it is I cuz I can see now by talking to other moms like even at her school, like, I can say like, maybe this this savoring and, and slow, you know, thing that I think we as older as mom have toward our chilled children at this age. really does make them feel close. And, and, and, you know, and, and give some a good outlook, a good attitude.


Patrice Badami  21:17

I think I think the thing is, is that like, for me, I love books, I love tours, I love crafts. So we always have to do tabletop, where that tabletop today, for example, we’re doing Daisy patches, tabletop is a time that we sit and do something, whether it’s going over academic stuff, or puzzles, or painting or something. And today, we’re going to catch up, because it’s the end of the year, we got to catch up with our badges that we want to get for daisies. And what I was gonna say is, the one thing I’ve noticed is I, I’ve always been able to just do my own thing. And I’ve always taught her that we should not worry about what anybody else does. And let’s do our own thing. And I think what I’ve noticed is, I don’t have any time for that, like thinking of her having a little bit of, you know, quarrels and things with kids at school. And I go just dismiss them and say, You know what, and then just walk away. That’s it. Just you know what? There’s no tie. That’s really that’s all I got. That’s what I think because there’s I think the one thing that’s positive about being an older mother plus the fact that I have the bonus of having had two older ones, I know how things affect them. I know what bothers them. I know how to take what other people are inputting to them, Word Wise meanness, whatever, I know how to teach her to dismiss it. So she said to me, I said, You know what? And this kid said, What, and I just walked away? And the kid looked confused. And I said, that’s good. Yeah, don’t be confused, you know? Yeah. But it’s, it’s, um, another thing is, is that, as a mother relating to other mothers who are Squibbles squabbling, and arguing and getting crabby about things that are like, wow, you have no idea what’s coming in junior high, you shouldn’t be worried about these little things. Yeah, surrounding this person, nice to my kids. This one I don’t like to focus on. You had been forcing your child to have their own self esteem, as opposed to worrying what the other mothers are doing. And,


Coco O’Conner 23:13

you know, it’s interesting, you say, that portrays, it’s interesting. You say that, because like, I this was a couple of years ago, but I actually had, like, like, the I’m that way. I’m like, Look, you gotta let these kids work out their own issues or their disagreements, right. But I had two moms that like, you know, wanted to have a talk with me about, you know, the interaction, and it was, it was just, if it’s just, you know, girl drama, or whatever, but I was just like, Well, I mean, I kind of been living let lit, like, you gotta, you know, I don’t, I don’t get into their business. Because, you know, and I and, and they were, of course, he’s younger than than I was his mom, but like, it was it was a really interesting stance, you know, and it was a very interesting hour and a half that, that they that we had, because I was just like, this is really I mean, there’s hell I don’t know, it’s not helicopter. I don’t know what you call a pit race. You tell me. I mean, I’m


Patrice Badami  24:18

the only time I’ve personally told my daughter, she needs to tell me whatever goes on. And she has to tell me what happens when it happens with who whatever, if there’s something where she’s injured. Somebody pushed her and she banged her head on the floor. And another time something else happened. And when that happens, that’s a problem. Well, I’ve found that there’s no point just because this is timeless because it happened back when my son was younger. So it’s not that it’s a new parenting thing. In other words, it’s not how do parents react? In general, you don’t know how people conduct their own lives and their own families and how they are protective and whatnot. So it’s never been where if I brought up your child kind of not My kid down, can you address that? It’s always Oh, no, that didn’t happen. So when that happens, that’s when I go, you know, I have to just just don’t even bother discussing it with the parent, you have to tell your child, that inner thing, steer clear. If it happens, go to the teacher, and there’s no point talking to the other parent. So I don’t know why they bothered you. Because it’s really pointless, really, it was an attack and a way for them to come to you in this course of two people. So it’s not productive for the parent dynamic. It’s not going to change the kids behavior, because clearly the child’s taught, they can put their hands on other people, you’re not going to change any dynamic by discussing it with those parents. So you have to just teach your child how to defuse it and validate that. Yeah, that was upsetting that that happened. And if you have to go further and go speak to the teacher directly, there’s no point. It’s not gonna defuse anything.


Coco O’Conner 25:52

Yeah. And I mean, it wasn’t even like that. It was just like, you know, not, I think, I mean, my daughter is not want to keep her mouth closed. You know, she’s, she likes to talk what it was, something is as to me minuscule, like, like she was, didn’t get invited to a birthday, or it was somebody, you know, got left out of an invitation, or somebody said this, or some girl said, they got invited, and they didn’t you know what, it’s just a girl drama. And I mean, my, the teacher actually had mentioned that and like the parent teacher conference thing, but I just kind of blew it off, because she didn’t really act like it was a big deal. Yeah, she was just like, oh, it’s, you know, it’s kind of annoying, but it’s girl trauma. And so I didn’t see it. I guess it took me by surprise. But yeah, I didn’t find that it was handled in a in a way that I mean, it


Patrice Badami  26:46

doesn’t work in the old. Yeah, let me bring my child over to apologize for this, that that doesn’t work either. Because then they think in terms of being the child, they’re going to be uncomfortable and embarrassed by being confronted by adults, and we can’t have your kid over and say, Oh, I’m sorry, I just have to teach your child themselves. Because the child is going to clam up. They’re never gonna say, Oh, yes. Yeah. So I pushed the person or I did that. No. And that’s what


Coco O’Conner 27:10

I’ve done it. Check this out, Patrice. That’s what I found so weird. It’s like, I thought we were gonna go off and have our own little, you know, saying whatever that was talk. Adults. But they put the kids in, like the seats in front of us. And I’m like, What? What are the guys like, this was really like, I was like,


Patrice Badami  27:30

That’s weird and uncomfortable. And it probably didn’t help anything.


Coco O’Conner 27:32

No, it didn’t. It was just Yeah, it was just, it’s just one of those things where I don’t know, it’s just like, really, you know, the bottom


Patrice Badami  27:40

You have to teach your child to deflect verbally. And if there’s a physical situation, that’s what bothers me. And unfortunately, moving forward with bullying and things like that. It happens in Junior, it does happen. That happens later. But the point is, you have to teach your child how to walk away, you have to teach your child unfortunately, sometimes martial arts, that if it gets to what they can block, I’m not saying attack, but at least block someone from putting their hands on them. So that’s where Yeah, that’s the world we’re living in. So but this whole Yeah, the carpet like when I was a kid, if I ever did something my parents would discuss, they would say, hey, what do you do or something like that? And not a lot of times, they’re like, they’ll maybe they’re in denial that their kid didn’t do anything? Or maybe they say something when the door is closed, but in front of you, they’ll say, oh, I don’t think so. Not my child. Yeah, you know, but you have to learn as an older mother, I just kind of avoid it. I just kind of step away from all of that. I’ll do what I need to do for the different school events, but I don’t want to get in the middle of it. I just want to step back. And it’s hard because I think there’s a world experience we have that we can offer to our children about how to look forward as older mothers. We can have them have different skills that will help them because we’ve already been through a lot. You haven’t raised the other two kids. I know what common I know what type of things to avoid. So I guess that’s what we need to do and in general what I want to talk about. I want to talk about your website and your website, your Instagram, you have a website as well. Oh, actually how cool she is. Find our mind yeah,


Coco O’Conner 29:18

You can find me that well, the cocoa O’Connor dot com is one of them. That’s my like, that’s more of my music artist, singer songwriter thing.


Patrice Badami  29:27

Yeah, do that. Anyway, people want to check it out. So I mean,


Coco O’Conner 29:31

it’s if you’d like, you know, it’s definitely Mamma Mia. Well, I don’t know if spa music I mean, but it’s like feeling like Bonnie Raitt. Like, you know, yeah, he kind of likes the singer songwriter Shawn Colvin and Rosanne Cash and all that kind of stuff. Oh, yeah. Billy, you may enjoy my music. So yeah, and and you know, Patrice, that’s the thing is, if I can encourage anybody, I actually got an independent record deal when I was 45. Wow. So you’re never too old to keep going after those dreams that you know you have placed in your heart or God’s put them in your heart. You just keep on keep on going. So that’s


Patrice Badami  30:06

a podcast right there. I would like to do it with you. Totally. Yeah, I mean things can happen when you’re older. Absolutely.


Coco O’Conner 30:13

Yeah. And I actually will be on it to be honest when I had my, my daughter at 40 I really kicked it into high gear as far as the creativity goes and the songwriting I mean, I just started doing it because I just wanted her to, you know, I didn’t want to buy into that that like, oh, you give up everything. When you become a mom, you just give up everything. You know, I was like, I’m gonna rock and roll. pretenders baby so I wanted to be Cristian when I was growing up, so I was like, I’m gonna show her she could do it. You know? Yeah, chasing your dreams is the fun part. You know, it’s the journey of chasing them not not actually getting them that changes anything but, but just chasing them and enjoying that journey. So yeah, that’s when I really started. I’ve had some amazing co-writes and songs and stuff like that. So yeah, you can Coco And I’m all over Spotify or iTunes or whatever. 


Patrice Badami  31:10

  I’m gonna put that in. As soon as I go to work, I’m gonna look it up. Yeah,


Coco O’Conner 31:15

Look it up. I released a record. I’ve got like three or four records. I released one last year. It was all done in Muscle Shoals. It’s actually a woman for Lange, who played with Bonnie Raitt. Back in the day, Jackson Browne and everything on guitar. And yeah, pretty cool. Pretty cool stuff. I’m proud of it. Yeah. And then I’m doing the vintage mamas thing where, you know, I just wanted to, I just wanted to serve moms to show you. So


Patrice Badami  31:41

Can you see that? Oh, yeah. The other ones are on my iPad. stickers you sent me? Oh, yes. She has Instagram. Vintage mama. She has a Facebook group. Vintage mama. You have the cocoa O’Connor dot com. And what else do I have here? Yeah, so it’s the store. Now let’s talk for a minute with this amazing brush. It’s the vintage Mama’s store. And you have this brush. Now listen, I don’t know, I see these videos on Instagram of these kids sitting perfectly still in the braving it and they’re putting the bows and she’s like, Look, if you have like a minute to just put the one thing in there. So I don’t use long hair. And she won’t, she just says I’ll let you brush it. But you can just put two elastics sometimes with the bows and that’s it. She won’t let me do those fancy hairstyles however, she’s much more patient now that we CoCo was wonderful enough to send me not one but two brushes, which is amazing. And I’ll have them on the website so that it’ll go right back to your website where they can get it. But yeah, it helps it to call out what you call it, the teeth in between are so far apart, that it’s not it doesn’t allow your hair to get tangled, it slides through so it’s a terrific brush. And then you’ll be able to find that on vintage The store but I’m going to also have the link in the show notes where you can go directly to the brush and that page. And we’ll have all the other contact information for Coco so that you could find her and listen to her music and check out her website and or check out her website for the music, the vintage Instagram the store and the Facebook to keep in contact with and we’re gonna have you back for in the kitchen with with a coordinate tree where we have to have a nice hot beverage you can have your coffee, grab a little snack and we discuss that and we’ll we’ll sit and be a little more casual talk a little bit more. I love the idea of having a show about chasing your dreams after 40 which is more for older moms as you can be 35 or whatever it is not to give up. Yeah, you could bounce your dreams with your child. So everybody listen, thank you for listening to ACORN to tree family podcast with Koko O’Connor vintage manga. And we will be speaking to you soon.


Coco O’Conner 34:00

All right. Thank you guys.

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